--- title: "Open Source in Fintech Podcast: The Code Coverage Paradox - Diffblue" description: "Season 3, 2nd edition of 2021 of the FINOS Open Source in Fintech Podcast: The Code Coverage Paradox - Diffblue's Enrico Trentin & Matthew Richards Interview." image: https://www.finos.org/hubfs/Canva%20images/FINOS%20OPEN%20SOURCE%20IN%20FINTECH%20PODCAST.png --- [![FINOS](https://www.finos.org/hs-fs/hubfs/sofin%20assets/SOFIN%20LOGOS/finos-logo.png?width=543&height=126&name=finos-logo.png "FINOS")](https://finos.org) - [Projects](https://www.finos.org/projects) - [Artificial Intelligence (AI)](https://ai.finos.org/) - [Common Domain Model (CDM)](https://www.finos.org/common-domain-model) - [FDC3](https://www.finos.org/fdc3) - [Fluxnova](https://fluxnova.finos.org) - [FINOS Common Cloud Controls](https://www.finos.org/common-cloud-controls-project) - [High Performance Computing (HPC)](https://hpc.finos.org) - [OSERA](https://osera.finos.org/) - [Open Source Readiness Initiative](https://www.finos.org/open-source-readiness) - 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Diffblue February 25, 2021 [FINOS Team](https://www.finos.org/blog/author/finos-team) **Season 3, 2nd edition of 2021 of the FINOS Open Source in Fintech Podcast: The Code Coverage Paradox - Diffblue's Enrico Trentin & Matthew Richards Interview.**     ### **FINOS OPEN SOURCE IN FINTECH PODCAST - The Code Coverage Paradox - Diffblue's Enrico Trentin & Matthew Richards Interview - 19 february 21**   Find all of our podcasts at [**Anchor.fm**](https://anchor.fm/finos), [**Apple Podcasts**](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finos-open-source-in-fintech-podcast/id1512371068), [**Spotify**](https://open.spotify.com/show/431XdfX2fBdCUsopwh8td3), and all podcast platforms.   In this podcast, our Director of Community, James McLeod has a chat with Enrico Trentin and Matthew Richards of Diffblue, primarily about the code coverage paradox, the theme of one of our recent Open Source in Fintech Meetups. Enrico is the Diffblue Developer Relations Lead, and Matthew Richards (or Matt since there are two Matthews, and the other happens to be the CEO) is the Diffblue Head of Product. Diffblue is a new silver member of FINOS, and works on automating tedious and repetitive tasks for developers within unit testing, using AI or Artificial intelligence. James is our Director of Community for FINOS, and host for many of our Open Source in Fintech Podcasts and Meetups.   During this interview Enrico and Matthew discuss unit testing and test driven development, the tradeoffs in software delivery for both the developer and business sides of the house, code coverage within the software development lifecycle, test quality, identifying which parts of your code introduce risk, and then AI or Artificial Intelligence in software development, driverless cars, Skynet, and the Terminator… hmmm…   So please enjoy this interview, check out our previous episodes, and subscribe to the podcast for some great upcoming discussions on open source, financial services, fintech, and how they all fit together.   ►►[**Diffblue**](https://www.diffblue.com/)   ►►[**Primer on the Code Coverage Paradox**](https://finos.org/blog/primer-the-code-coverage-paradox-diffblue) ►►[**The Code Coverage Paradox Meetup Video**](https://finos.org/blog/enrico-trentin-the-code-coverage-paradox)     -=-=-=-=-   #### About the Open Source in Fintech Podcast   The FINOS Open Source in Fintech Podcast celebrates open source projects and interesting topics at the cross section of financial services and open source. 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